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Flaffy_91
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Post subject: Alright chaps Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2015 10:20 pm |
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Hi guys. I'm Joe. 24 and from Liverpool Currently own a 06 facelift Mini Cooper s that I've owned for two years. Currently up to 212bhp and 252nm torque. Love it but I need something bigger and abit nippier I've liked the Mazda 3 mps for years now. So I'm going to take the plunge and get one bought Now, do I get a mk1 or mk2? It will be getting tuned, probably around the 350hp mark Pro's and cons of each? Obviously the mk1 is cheaper, and the money saved could go straight into mods. I kind of prefer the looks of a mk2 but not by a lot. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks
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Post subject: Re: Alright chaps Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 9:16 am |
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The 3 mki has a rawer feel to it and is a bit wild, in a good way. The mkii is more refined and bit of a comfort car, doesn't feel as beastly as it should
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Post subject: Re: Alright chaps Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 9:50 am |
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Mk1 interior and seats are alot better than a mk2's, even more so if you can get your hands on a facelift to the btw
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Post subject: Re: Alright chaps Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 10:21 am |
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Remember also..
3mk1 465 tax 3mk2 265 tax
You could go all out and locate a low tax 6. ;)
Welcome to the forum mate and let the hunt commence!
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Flaffy_91
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Post subject: Re: Alright chaps Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 10:52 am |
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Thanks for the advice. Thinking it will be a mk1 overall then. Found a lovely pear white one for sale quite local to me. I'll go have a nose this week some time
As for the tax, I don't see it being that much of a problem. Think I would be paying it monthly anyway so for about £50 a month for the mk1 compared to £30 a month for the 2. It's only around £20 difference so wouldn't bother me too much.
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Post subject: Re: Alright chaps Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 1:29 pm |
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Post subject: Re: Alright chaps Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 2:01 pm |
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I think all the white mk1's are facelifts, ive never seen a non-facelift in white anyway.
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Post subject: Re: Alright chaps Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 2:15 pm |
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Flaffy_91 wrote: Thanks for the advice. Thinking it will be a mk1 overall then. Found a lovely pear white one for sale quite local to me. I'll go have a nose this week some time
As for the tax, I don't see it being that much of a problem. Think I would be paying it monthly anyway so for about £50 a month for the mk1 compared to £30 a month for the 2. It's only around £20 difference so wouldn't bother me too much. Would be interesting to know the insurance difference between the Mini and the MPS.Usually a pleasant surprise, considering.
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Post subject: Re: Alright chaps Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 2:44 pm |
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foxy wrote: Flaffy_91 wrote: Thanks for the advice. Thinking it will be a mk1 overall then. Found a lovely pear white one for sale quite local to me. I'll go have a nose this week some time
As for the tax, I don't see it being that much of a problem. Think I would be paying it monthly anyway so for about £50 a month for the mk1 compared to £30 a month for the 2. It's only around £20 difference so wouldn't bother me too much. Would be interesting to know the insurance difference between the Mini and the MPS.Usually a pleasant surprise, considering. Mini with all mods declared is £700 a year on the nose Quotes for a mk1 have been about £550 and a mk2 about £600 ~Divine~Wind~ wrote: Ah the pearl white is vv nice, facelift? As far as I know it will be as it's an 09?
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Post subject: Re: Alright chaps Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 2:49 pm |
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Post subject: Re: Alright chaps Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 4:24 pm |
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Hello and welcome.
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Post subject: Re: Alright chaps Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 8:49 pm |
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Hi and to the club
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Post subject: Re: Alright chaps Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 9:06 pm |
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~Divine~Wind~ wrote: Remember also..
3mk1 465 tax 3mk2 265 tax
You could go all out and locate a low tax 6. ;) Errrmmmm... try £490 tax if you pay outright. £539 if you pay for 6 months as one offs, £514 monthly
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Post subject: Re: Alright chaps Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 10:57 pm |
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Yup. Just re-taxed mine (white mk1 facelift) at this cost. Only went for 6 months though as will likely look to sell up by then unfortunately.. )-;
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Post subject: Re: Alright chaps Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2015 5:51 am |
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Mk2 has a much stiffer chassis and better suspension, so if you get a mk1. Also has extra mountings on the steering rack to improve feel. The mk2 has aero addons under the floorpan which make it a lot more stable at high speed. The gearing on the mk2 is slightly longer too. Once you start mapping there's little difference in the power delivery as they are mechanically almost exactly the same engine, the real difference being the Volvo ECU used on the mk2 being a lot more advanced to provide the lower emissions - also better economy on closed loop. Oh, and you don't need to change the exhaust system on the mk2 unless you're going over 350bhp as it's 2.7" but the smaller mk1 starts restricting around the 310 mark, although not by a huge amount.
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